Joining Matthew Holt (@boltyboy) on #THCBGang on Thursday June 1 at 1PM PT 4PM ET were double trouble futurists Jeff Goldsmith and Ian Morrison (@seccurve), and delivery & platform expert Vince Kuraitis (@VinceKuraitis). Lots of discussion about Kaiser and Geisinger and what this means about the model for the future of care delivery. Do incentives or professionalism matter more?

The video is below. If you’d rather listen to the episode, the audio is preserved from Friday as a weekly podcast available on our iTunes & Spotify channels