Well the half-century is up for #THCBGang and it’s been a lot of fun bantering with some of the cognoscenti of health tech, business & policy over most of the last year.

For #50 we had a special guest. Robert Pearl, (@RobertPearlMD) former CEO of The Permanente Medical Group, noted commentator, and author. He joined me, along with regular gang members policy expert consultant/author Rosemarie Day (@Rosemarie_Day1), policy & tech expert Vince Kuraitis (@VinceKuraitis), and Suntra Modern Recovery CEO JL Neptune (@JeanLucNeptune).

There was a little discussion of Robert’s new book Uncaring (although there’ll be more about that on THCB later) and a lot of discussion about his experience at Kaiser Permanente, what went right, what went wrong and why it never traveled nationwide–and what that all means for a new generation of medical groups. And we didn’t forget the vaccine rollout, and even whether it was safe to be on a plane!

You can see the video below live and the audio will be on our podcast channel (Apple/Spotify) from Friday — Matthew Holt