Comments on: How a Physician Can Work With a Not Yet Approved Drug Through Compassionate Use https://thehealthcareblog.com/blog/2016/04/17/far-from-evidence-based-prescribing-the-world-of-compassionate-use/ Everything you always wanted to know about the Health Care system. But were afraid to ask. Thu, 01 Dec 2022 19:43:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.4 By: marlobrent https://thehealthcareblog.com/blog/2016/04/17/far-from-evidence-based-prescribing-the-world-of-compassionate-use/#comment-856348 Mon, 04 Jul 2016 11:35:52 +0000 https://thehealthcareblog.com/?p=87072#comment-856348 Our time is often described as risk-averse, but that is not completely accurate. Instead, it is like the opposite of psychopath, that is so worried about the consequences of his actions, that he is ready to let people die, rather than accept responsibility: http://www.lastwordonnothing.com/2015/03/27/the-trolley-and-the-psychopath/
Perhaps some bravery and decisiveness could be useful in a medical profession, fostered by bigger trust from general public. If a doctor can legally prescribe a drug such progabaline – https://rxed.eu/en/l/Lyrica/ – despite its well-known side effects, probably we can trust him with giving out substances that are not yet completely researched.
That would, of course, require patient to be fully informed and consenting to such treatment.

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By: ABatemanHouse https://thehealthcareblog.com/blog/2016/04/17/far-from-evidence-based-prescribing-the-world-of-compassionate-use/#comment-855368 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 02:39:09 +0000 https://thehealthcareblog.com/?p=87072#comment-855368 In reply to ellie.

Hi Ellie, you ask great questions, to which I can offer thoughts but not definitive answers. Forgive me if i don’t try to define ethics and instead stick to discussing non-trial access to investigational medical products!
You have raised two separate, but related, questions. One, what happens when the provider and the patient have different stances on seeking an investigational medical product —who “wins”. And two, when in the development process ought we, and ought we not, think ethics requires us to provide an investigational medical product to patients.
So – re 1, you can look at this in 2 ways. On one hand, the physician has a fiduciary responsibility to her patient, and she is obligated to use her knowledge and training to guide the patient in evaluating the possible risks and benefits of trying an investigational medical product. On the other hand, the physician has an obligation to advocate for her patient. Ideally, helping the patient evaluate risks and benefits will result in a decision that the physician is comfortable advocating for. If, however, after helping the patient evaluate risks and benefits, the patient makes a decision that the physician disagrees with, the physician has two options. One, the physician can decline to assist the patient seek her goal (in this case, access to an investigational medical product) and offer to refer her to another physician if the patient so desires. Or, two, the physician can agree to file a request on behalf of the patient but, in so doing, make it clear that she does not agree with the patient’s decision. While it may seem like passing the buck to contact a company and say, “While I don’t think it is a good decision, my patient would like to seek access to your product,” it may allow a physician and patient to continue their relationship, both secure in the knowledge that they have made their opinions known. [Asking a physician to work to secure the object of her patient’s desires even while opposing the patient’s plan to use an investigational medical product is awkward for all parties and ideally should be avoided. However, given that a patient must use a physician to request access to the investigational medical product and that the patient may be at the end of her life or otherwise in a position where it would be difficult to find a new physician, physicians may sometimes be wiling to assume this role —provided, again, that they can be frank in telling the patient, company, or whomever that this is not something the physician is recommending.]
The 2nd issue you raise is when in the development process ought we, and ought we not, think ethics requires us to provide an investigational medical product to patients outside of trials. I believe it is impossible to develop a uniform guideline that will work across all diseases, all agents, and all populations; rather, I think this decision most likely would need to be made on a case by case basis. My chief concern is not, therefore, in drawing a line in the sand after which patients ought be able to access an investigational product. Rather, my chief concern is fairness: if one person can access the investigational drug after point X (be that the end of Phase I, Phase II, or some other moment during the drug development process), other similarly situated persons ought be considered for access at that point as well. So, for example, allowing a politically connected adult patient with breast cancer to access the drug ahead of other adults with breast cancer is unethical. Allowing an adult patient with breast cancer that expresses a certain protein to access the drug while denying it to another adult breast cancer patient whose disease does not express that certain protein is acceptable if there is reason to believe that the investigational drug works on that protein. To the extent that patients are alike in scientifically or medically relevant factors, they ought receive access to the drug at the same time. Non scientific or non medical factors ought not impact when a patient has access to the investigational product.
I have been involved in a pilot attempt to create an ethics-driven process for recommending which patients get access to investigational drugs that may interest you. It is called CompAC, the Compassionate Use Advisory Committee, and it has been created by New York University School of Medicine to assist Janssen. There are currently some publications out about CompAC and there will be more. My colleagues in this endeavor and I would not claim that that we have developed THE way to decide who gets access and who does not, but we have been working with an independent, expert group to try to make these tough decisions and to do so by relying on principles that will be made public at the end of the pilot.

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By: John Irvine https://thehealthcareblog.com/blog/2016/04/17/far-from-evidence-based-prescribing-the-world-of-compassionate-use/#comment-855356 Mon, 18 Apr 2016 15:55:00 +0000 https://thehealthcareblog.com/?p=87072#comment-855356 I know several physicians who have had unpleasant experiences trying to creatively navigate the rules around pain prescribing. This is a different area but parallels exist. What are the liability issues here?

Alison can you give us your thinking on risks and best practices?

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By: ellie https://thehealthcareblog.com/blog/2016/04/17/far-from-evidence-based-prescribing-the-world-of-compassionate-use/#comment-855353 Mon, 18 Apr 2016 02:00:47 +0000 https://thehealthcareblog.com/?p=87072#comment-855353 Finally, someone has taken the time of day to research, understand, and provide the facts to the myths. Bravo! The scenario may be idealistic, but its pieces were pertinent to many stages of the process, and therefore is only idealistic in whole, not part. The area of greatest complication, however, does lie in the process of trying to obtain an investigational drug, but rather in the ruling-out of if it is ethical to provide the patient with it. Where does ethics draw the line? When it could potentially cause the patient greater risk? Prolonged adverse effects? Death? What if the provider does not find the investigational drug for a certain patient’s diagnosis to be ethical, but the patient persists? Is ethics still a factor then? The thing with ethics is that it is not standardized. Ethical treatment is dependent on what the provider considers ethical. Then again, what is ethics?

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