Comments on: Socialism Kills

By: Garm

Garm — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:45:05 +0000

I remember the 70s. Bright-eyes young people extolling the virtues of Maoism, and the question “How does all that pretty theory actually work in practice” somehow never seemed to make tham think.

The more things change…today it is the conservatives with bright mad eyes articulating their pretty theories and never, ever checking them against the real world.

We know public systems work better in healthcare, and we know medical care are unsuited for market provision. Kenneth Arrow wrote the theory in 1963, it is orthodox among healthcare economists today. Every developed country on earth have more efficient healthcare systems, most get better results and all are far cheaper.

Thats not an argument, its just observable fact. The pretty theory does not fit reality in any way whatsoever. At what point does willful delision shade over into actual mentall illness?

By: Seth Kaplan

Seth Kaplan — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 23:16:33 +0000

Socialism is defined “as a system in which everybody would have free access to the goods and services designed to directly meet their needs. Socialism does not require a system of payment for the work that each individual contributes to producing goods and services. All work would be on a voluntary basis. Producing for needs means that people would engage in work that has a direct usefulness. The satisfaction that this would provide, along with the increased opportunity to shape working patterns and conditions, would bring about new attitudes to work.”
goodman can carry on about how the Obama/Democratic approach is “socialism,” but the fact remains that nothing they’re doing fits the above definition (or any other definition) of socialism. Goodman is one of many Dark Side–a.k.a. the G.O.P.–“spouters,” people who fling many ill-formed notions at the wall in the hope that (a) some will stick and (b) that some people may believe them.
As another commentator noted above, the rest of the industrialized, civilized world did not make a mistake in opting to include universal, single-payer, cradle-to-grave coverage for their citizens as part of the social compact. The so-called “Obamacare” program is a step in that direction; however, there is a long way to go, made longer by the contrarian sparks flung by Goodman and others.
As Winston Churchill once observed, “Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing…after they have exhausted all other possibilities.”

By: BobbyG

BobbyG — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 03:09:16 +0000

In reply to C. Wish there was a "Like" button.

By: C

Fri, 09 Nov 2012 02:34:18 +0000

There is this big cold place right above your head – it’s called CANADA. You should check it out sometime. Downright socialist health policies and it absolutely annihilates your country in EVERY determinant of health.

By: BobbyG

BobbyG — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 02:32:37 +0000

In reply to John Ballard. One hopes.

By: John Ballard

John Ballard — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 01:34:02 +0000

In reply to DeterminedMD. Are you "self-deporting"?

By: DeterminedMD

DeterminedMD — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 00:51:11 +0000

I think it is time for me to regain what little sanity I have left and get off the “grid” for awhile. There is no hope and change, the partisan madness is not going to stop just because the electorate voted the way they did, if anything, the outcome was saying “more of the same, please”. And WHEN consequences of PPACA become so apparent that people start experiencing real quantifiable increases in morbidity and mortality, forget cost issues for the moment, you think any partisan hacks shouting us down will think differently? No, it is about party first, profits second, and I don’t know where the hell the public falls in the list.

Just look at the faces of these politicians who are the spokespersons for either side, when they are not mugging for the cameras. They are devoid of real emotion and concern, and if you have any slim interest in my opinion, it really does resemble the sociopathic expressions of serial killers and white collar criminals alike. Yeah, a harsh statement, but, for one, it is from me, and two, you can’t sugarcoat pending destruction.

Well, amuse yourselves onward folks. I don’t know how long I will not surf into this site, but I hope I can commit to at least through the end of the year.

Who knows, maybe I might get lucky and someone will brave the consequences of being a whistleblower and reveal what are pending disasters Nancy and Company did not even think anyone else would read, since these bozo Democrats certainly did not.

Just remember my main point these past two years: politicians have no place setting health care policy, because it has at least two parts fairly much no incumbent possesses nor understands: empathy and foresight.

But, as George Carlin said it best, it is not the politicians who suck, but, the public. Tuesday sure echoed those words, eh!?

Hausta la vista, comrades!

By: spike

spike — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:42:31 +0000

In reply to DeterminedMD. Wow, you said something reasonable! Congrats, DeterminedMD, your persistence has paid off!

By: Darius

Darius — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:49:12 +0000

And yet Cuba kicks our butts in healthcare and in some regards education…

By: BobbyG

BobbyG — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:26:56 +0000

In reply to DeterminedMD. Comrade!